tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020417.post114323369426600812..comments2024-02-19T05:09:00.099-06:00Comments on Lutheran Confessions: Get RealClint Schneklothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00707900080657719369noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020417.post-1144006031324322652006-04-02T14:27:00.000-05:002006-04-02T14:27:00.000-05:00Just out of curiosity when you say Cambridge do yo...Just out of curiosity when you say Cambridge do you mean a place in America or England... if you mean England you might be a physical neighbor as well as a neighbor in cyberspace.<BR/>Peace,<BR/>ChrisChristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07304298306127392428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020417.post-1143669905082980242006-03-29T16:05:00.000-06:002006-03-29T16:05:00.000-06:00Dwight,I guess I'm Lutheran enough to assume the d...Dwight,<BR/><BR/>I guess I'm Lutheran enough to assume the distinction between church and world is not as clear cut as you describe. Why is Barth more of the Spirit than the application process for welfare, for example? <BR/><BR/>I do agree that there is a pernicious idea, possibly floating in the background of what I wrote, that real things are outside of church. On the other hand, I am a churchman writing this list. I'm at church ALL THE TIME. For me, getting real is often getting out. <BR/><BR/>If I were, say, a dentist, then going to Lenten service would be a form of getting real. As the pastor, I'm going to be at Lenten service no matter what. I'm paid to be there. And love to be there.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for adding to my list. Now, if we were to speak of the reality of the church, and the places where I need to get more "real" there, they might be:<BR/><BR/>1. Read the prophets more often.<BR/>2. Stop reading so much contemporary theology and practical stuff, and become more conversant with the church fathers and mothers.<BR/>3. Create and be creative for worship- write a hymn, paint an icon, rehearse my chant.<BR/>4. Keep my ministry from being constrained by class, race, etc.<BR/><BR/>What is your list?Clint Schneklothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00707900080657719369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4020417.post-1143662387545161642006-03-29T13:59:00.000-06:002006-03-29T13:59:00.000-06:00There is a pernicious assumption in all of this, B...There is a pernicious assumption in all of this, Brother: That "real" is worldly, not "churchy." To "get real," I think you do some very important things: read the Bible, read Karl Barth and/or Dietrich Bonhoeffer and/or Stanley Hauerwas, preside at the mass -- the "things of the Spirit" are the ultimate reality; the business pages are not "realty." <BR/><BR/>When I was a pastor, I did luncheon with my employed parishioners, and it informed my preaching, sure. But there was no way that that was "realer" than the time I spent in study and prayer!<BR/><BR/>What do you think? I have long enjoyed "The Velveteen Rabbit," with it's foundational question, "What is real?" I smile at the Horse's answer relating to having your fur all rubbed off. Let's not too quickly label things as "real" that may very well broaden our horizons, but hardly deserve the label.<BR/><BR/>Dwight.Dwight P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15849665963994688905noreply@blogger.com